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decided that, as a preliminary sketch for the Windows version, we’d do the Mac version.
We thought that, because the Mac had good documentation and quite mature programming tools, it might be the shortest route to a Windows version. We assumed that 80 percent of Mac code would port directly into the Windows environment. So we entered into the Mac project with the thought that it would probably be a kind of a throwaway, and we didn’t really view it as having much commercial impact.
So you didn’t do market research In depth before deciding to go to the Mac?
DF:
No it was purely a technical
decision.
At what point did you realize that you probably had a winner on your hands?
DF:
At Comdex last November,
1987, when we saw the really tremendous excitement on the part of the DOS developers seeing what could be done on the Mac, and a lot of excitement on the part of Apple

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developers at the prospect of having a real database system on the Mac.
Did Apple assist you?
DF: We worked with at least two or three of the Apple evangelists along the way, and that was a very different experience for us. We hadn’t realized that technology could be a secular religion.
What sort of help were you able to get from them? What was that experience like?
DF: Simply, we got feedback that what we were doing wasn’t Mac-ish enough and it wasn’t in fact. I think basically they espouse the virtues of the Mac interface, and they were providing inputs that they didn’t like a programming language lying Uflderneath things, and so on.
I would say that their encouragement was more along the lines of encouraging us to get religion, or at least their particular religion.
Have you gotten It?
DF: I think so. We are the four original developers (We’ve since added several people to the team.) I think a lot of us went into this project with the idea that the Mac was just a grown-up version of the 128K toy that they sold a few years ago. We didn’t realize, first of all, the beauty of the graphic interface, and! don’t think we realized that the Mac!! is probably the most powerful machine available right now.
I guess! personally got religion when! was thinking about buying one of those hotrod 20-Mhz compact portables to use at home. It occurred to me that I didn’t personally care to own another DOS machine.
What’s your perception of the Mac marketplace now? How much development is being done on the Mac?
DF: I think the Mac market is one that is changing as you look at it right now. A lot of
people are developing Mac products
there’s a lot or activity on net-, working Macs with DOS m ac h i n e s Where Hughes Aircraft used to buy 10 percent Macs and 9U pcr-:
cent DOS machines, rumor has it that the last 5,000 machines they’ve ordered have been half and half.
I think what’s changing the situation is the fact that the Mac II is a perfectly good modified data processing machine. You take an 8Mb MacIl with a 300Mb disk drive on it, and you’ll probably have the most powerful desktop computer obtainable right now.
We see a resurgence of interest in the corporate community. Macs offer today the graphical interface in a mature form that !BM is promising somedaywith Presentation Manager.
Does the 68000 offer you a significant advantage over the 8086 or
80286?
DF: It doesn’t offer any speed advantage, but what it does offer is linear address space. That makes a huge, huge difference. !t eliminates so much of the klutziness, really, of the existing DOS applications. On the DOS side it’s not going to get to that point until you’re running in the 80386 mode.
EC: One of the strengths of FoxBASE has always been its ability to buffer large amounts of databases and indexes in memory. Now, with the large address space of the 68000, we can do more of that than ever before. It can just haul things into memory and that’s it. It runs very, very quickly from that point and that’s something that’s just not possible under DOS.
The major challenge we face in porting this new technology back to DOS is making it fit in 640K That’s a huge problem. I think it’s a major performance difficulty for DBASE IV: it’s not really a 640K program.
How practical is the Mac as a programming platform?
DF: We are working on our next
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